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Writer's pictureMarcus Nikos

It’s 2008 all over again. Home builders reporting biggest spike in unsold homes in a decade.

home builders Across America are dealing

with their biggest pile up of inventory

since the 2008 housing crash this pile

up of inventory is now causing these

Builders to cut prices and many of them

are now issuing concerning warnings

about the state of the housing market

heading into 2025 because what we are

now seeing is a supply Pipeline on

Builder Lots that's the biggest of all

time even bigger than the previous peak

in the 2008 crash you can see that home

builders in America now have over 300

,000 homes for sale in the South that's

the highest level ever and these

Builders are now having to get desperate

to sell many of these homes I'm seeing

40 $50,000 price cuts on a lot of these

houses and they're even doing 4.5%

mortgage rates I'm wondering how these

Builders are even making money on these

houses anymore and the most recent

Home Builders Warning

warning comes from lenar the second

largest home builder in America they

just reported fourth quarter earnings

and showed a 9% year-over-year decline

in Revenue with their stock price

plummeting as a result meanwhile one

month ago DR Horton the largest home

builder in America had a stock clunge on

a Q4 earnings Revenue Miss with the big

issue being the amount of homes for sale

on these Builder Lots home builders now

have 492,000 homes for sale at the end

of 2024 that's the second highest level

of Builder inventory ever the only other

time we saw Builder inventory even close

to this high was 0607 7 before the big

crash meaning that these home builders

could be cutting the price by a lot in

2025 if these Trends hold in fact some

Builders have already been cutting the

price so I want you folks to take a look

at this community close to Tampa

everyone I actually tour this community

over the weekend and I was shocked at

how affordable some of the houses were

here you can see that the Builder is

offering five bed three bath Homes at

2500 ft for

$369,000 that's 100

$150 a foot and not only that they're

giving crazy mortgage rate buy Downs I

actually went to that Home Building site

and Tor it and talked to the sales agent

and she was saying I could get a

4.7% mortgage rate for the full 30-year

term of the mortgage meaning that my

payment would only be 2,100 a month for

a five bed three Bath House indicating

Housing Demand

that there's something strange going on

in this housing market right now

everyone I mean these Builders are

cutting the price they're giving big

mortgage rate buy Downs they have plenty

of homes to choose from and yet they're

still struggling to make sales

suggesting a real problem with housing

Demand right now home buyers seem to be

checked out on the housing market

they're not jumping to buy homes right

now just because the Federal Reserve cut

interest rates and the election is over

rather these Builders are observing

persistent challenges with home buyer

demand you can see in particular stwart

Miller the CE CEO of lenar said that in

the course of the fourth quarter the

housing market that appeared to be

improving as the FED cut short-term

rates proved to be far more challenging

as mortgage rates Rose almost 100 basis

points he says accordingly in the fourth

quarter sales Pace lagged expectations

and our new orders fell short of

expectations at 177,000 homes vers

19,000 homes projected now we can see

that lenar they're the second largest

builder in America by volume of units

delivered so the fact that they're

reporting these issues is of big big

concern meanwhile the number one home

builder is Dr Horton and concerningly DR

Horton is also reporting similar

problems DR Horton missed their fourth

quarter earnings estimates their revenue

was down 5% year-over-year their CEO

Donald Al said in their earnings call

that we believe that rate volatility and

uncertainty are causing home buyers to

stay on the sidelines in the near term

but the broader implication here folks

is not good for the housing market in

2025 I mean in many of the states where

these Builders are most active we have

record high home prices and the fact

that these Builders are signaling

weakness shows that there's fewer buyers

coming into these states and that prices

are going to need to come down to allow

local buyers to step into the market and

afford the homes open up reventure app

I'm going to show you some of the states

where these Builders are most active we

go to a demographic data point called

building permits you can see the most

building permits are pulled in in Texas

as well as Florida North Carolina

California Arizona and Georgia so these

states in red have the most building

permits but on a relative basis it's

really here in the South where the

builders are most active and so one way

to actually think about these Builder

warnings about demand and inventory is

that it's really impacting this slice of

the US housing market here they're

called the smile states warm weather

sunb belt climates this is where the

builders are most active and this is

where inventory has gone up the most so

in Texas there's now 115,000 homes for

sale on the resale Market that's the

highest level of inventory in 7 years so

on the resale Market inventory in Texas

is exploding now you have the builders

saying we're having issues meaning more

inventory is going to hit in 2025

meanwhile in Florida inventory is up to

152,000 homes also the highest level in

7 years suggesting that we're in a

downturn in Florida's housing market

meanwhile in Tennessee Tennesse C just

hit its highest level of inventory in 7

years most notably here in the sun Bel

which is where I think home prices have

the greatest likelihood of dropping in

2025 is after all the housing market is

a supply and demand equation everyone

how many people are looking to buy homes

versus how many people are looking to

sell homes and that equation in the

south is tilting towards now an

oversupplied housing market that's much

more favorable to buyers where sellers

are really going to have no choice but

to cut the price next year and the

interesting thing about these Builders

is that they have pricing power so while

they're starting to struggle in terms of

their earnings reports and their stock

prices lenar is down 25% over the last

three months they still actually have

decent profit margins so they have room

to cut the price and they have room to

give mortgage rate buy Downs that's

something that's going to mean that the

builders actually end up fairing better

than existing home sellers I want you to

think about something everyone remember

this community I showed you earlier the

lar Community where they're selling

houses at $150 a foot if you go to the

same area east of Tampa you could see

that there's existing homeowners

resellers who are also trying to sell

their homes maybe they bought a home

from the Builder two or 3 years ago like

in this case and they're trying to sell

a 4 bed two bath for $3.95 and they're

still trying to make a profit on it like

the owner of this house bought it for

317 in 2021 they're trying to get it for

$ 3.95 however this seller is now

competing with the builder who's

offering a bigger newer house for

$20,000 less with a 4.7% mortgage rate

and this is almost the conundrum that

you have as a home buyer in these home

builder communities is that while it

might appear attractive on first glance

to buy a house from a builder because

they giving a more affordable price and

they're giving a mortgage rate buy down

if you then go to try to sell that house

two or three years later you might

actually have trouble selling your house

because you're going to be competing

with that Builder when you go to sell it

and actually folks I had to see this for

myself everyone I I was looking at the

lenar earnings reports I was looking at

the data on how much the Builder

inventory was going up and I said to

myself I need to go on the ground and

look at what's going on here in the

Tampa Metro uh for myself so I did that

and over the next couple minutes I'm

going to show you some clips of me

touring different Home Building sites

and you know what I saw everyone was

something that kind of shocked me this

Dr Horton

folks I want you to take a look at

what's right behind me I just drove

about 10 minutes down the street and I

find a deserted Home Building site here

from Dr Horton this is America's largest

home builder DR Horton I talked to you

about a month and a half ago about how

they gave some warnings in their

earnings call about reduced demand in

Florida and Texas well look at what

we're seeing here in Florida all these

brand new Built Homes from Dr Horton and

I'm going to I'm going to take you down

here so you could see what we're dealing

with almost universally these homes have

an available sign in front of them

that's how you know that the house is a

spec house that the Builder built it and

finished it and there's no buyer you can

see it's an available sign available

available available available available

it looks like one person bought that

house over there and this is what scares

me actually about the Builder market

right now and the housing market in 2025

is not just the overall home hes for

sale but the amount of spec inventory

that's sitting on the market we just

haven't seen this ever except for the

2008 bubble and so many people in the

housing market seem to think that a

crash is impossible this is what amazes

me is that we're seeing all the signs of

a downturn already playing out in the

market in Florida and Texas it's

unquestionable that there's a downturn

playing out in those two markets

inventory is spiking on the resale

Market Builder suppli is surging prices

now starting to drop yet there's still

this Denial in the housing market

mainstream that this is actually

happening and I think one of the reasons

why there's the denial is people look at

the national home Price Index right and

the national home price index is still

at a record high and it's still actually

Up 3 and a half% uh to 4% year-over-year

depending on the metric you look at so

we still are seeing National home prices

go up and as a result I think a lot of

analysts in the housing market they lose

the local perspective and a lot of the

news reporters lose a local perspective

and are ignoring the fact that there is

a downturn occurring here in Florida now

I want you to take a look at this

everyone this is another Home Building

site but you could see they're just

putting the stakes in the ground here on

this Home Building site they have a

couple houses out of the ground here

they have a couple houses out of the

ground here but you could see all this

land all this land and you can see the

signs over there for where they're going

to have their lots for their homes and

this is what's also interesting is not

just is there a big pipeline of Builder

homes completed and under construction

there's also a big pipeline yet to be

built and what's super interesting is

that these Builders don't seem to care

about the slowdown in the market rather

the builders are going Full Speed Ahead

into 2025 and are building more homes

into this Regional downturn in Florida

where I think prices in Florida could

probably drop by about 10% in 2024 I'm

going to get into some of those specific

projections in a second on how much I

think prices are going to drop in

Florida this year but the thing to

understand overall is that the builders

don't seem to care about the Slowdown

and actually the CEO of Meritage Homes

who's the seventh largest home builder

in America they just came out and said

on their earnings call they're going to

build more spec inventory in 2025 and

they're going to build more homes in

2025 even acknowledging the slowdown in

the market and the reason they said

they're going to do that is because they

anticipate a good spring selling season

and I think a lot of this actually has

to do with Donald Trump so Trump was

elected a little over a month ago and

since then there's been a big surge in

sentiment all over the economy all over

asset markets even in the housing market

the Builder surveys are now showing

they're more confident about the future

with Trump in office and you know this

is because Trump is a business-friendly

president he's going to reduce

regulation he plans to reduce taxes so

it's not that surprising that sentiment

would increase the problem though is

that increased sentiment doesn't

necessarily improve the fundamentals of

the market right just because Trump is

now president doesn't mean all of a

sudden that people are going to be able

to afford houses right the math of the

affordability being the worst of all

time is still in place and so if

Builders just decide to ramp up

production even more that's not necess

going to bring more buyers to the table

rather that's just likely to push home

prices down which again would be good

for you guys out there I think the moral

of this story is a positive one if

you're a prospective home buyer it's a

negative one if you're someone who's an

investor who already owns homes in these

Home Building sites or who is you know

flipping homes this is a negative

because the prices are going to drop

these Builders are going to drive the

prices down in Florida in Texas in

Tennessee in Georgia in Alabama because

they still have room on their margins

the profit margins of these Builders

went up a lot during the pandemic it's

now gone down but they still have room

to cut prices more do bigger mortgage

rate buy downs and one interesting thing

about these houses everyone is like

these are tiny these are tiny floor

plates look at this wonder how much

they're going to charge for these houses

I've seen some price points below

$300,000 in this area uh about 40 mil

southeast of Tampa this is where all the

action is as far as the Home Building

sites and you can also see that the

builders I mean they

pick very rural outlying suburban Loc to

build as well so if someone builds a

home out here I'm not sure if that's

necessarily going to impact the housing

market in downtown Tampa or in penel

county in St Petersburg they're kind of

different markets anyway what I think

you all should do out there if you're a

prospective buyer understand that the

volatility in this market is real that

the builders are doing some crazy things

and that prices are likely to drop and

the markets they're most active and what

we do on reventure app is we try to

account for this in our home price

projections our home price projections

look at the inventory levels they look

at the price Cuts they look at the do

and then they try to project where

values are heading in the future in the

short term over the next year if you're

going to put your hard-earned down

payment into a house if you're going to

take the risk of a mortgage if you want

to start buying investment properties

you have to understand the trends in the

Market Force everyone we're going to

have to track these Trends into the

future one bad earnings report from a

bunch of home builders doesn't

necessarily mean that the housing market

everywhere across the country is going

to crash and so what I would suggest you

do is go to ww. reventure doapp and

track this data in your area

particularly the home price forecast

score for your state city and zip code

and gives a score ranked from 0 to 100

on how prices are forecast to move in

the future closer the score is to zero

the more likely that prices are to drop

meanwhile the closer the score is to 100

the more likely prices are to go up the

more of a sellers Market it is so what

I'll suggest you do is go to ww.

reventure doapp right now and search

your city and zip code so you can see

the home price forecast score to get the

full data you'll need to upgrade to a

Premium plan the cost is $39 a month

which is ultimately a very affordable

price compared to the cost of buying a

house and having peace of mind about the

current trends and future Trends in the

market especially with these Builders

doing big big price Cuts you're going to

want to see if your city your state is

affected and how prices might be heading

in 2025 as a result

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