Biggest mortgage collapse in US History just got worse."
- Marcus Nikos
- Jan 17
- 11 min read
we are witnessing the biggest drop in
home buyer demand in US history right
now with mortgage applications to buy a
house plummeting by 63% from their
pandemic Peak this collapsing buyer
demand suggests that the spring housing
market this year is going to see a lot
of empty open houses and a lot of price
Cuts in fact we're already seeing these
price Cuts take hold right now as the
median list price for houses Across
America is down year-over-year in about
50 % of States however even with these
initial declines in prices we're seeing
in certain States the overall price
levels for houses are still in the
biggest bubble of all time so I want you
folks to take a look at what this very
alarming graph is showing the annual
income needed by Americans to buy a
house and what do you see is the massive
spike in income required to buy a house
over the last 5 to 10 years Americans
now need to earn 110 ,000 just to even
qualify for most mortgages that's a cost
level that we have simply never seen
before in US history and we've actually
never seen this lack of affordability
sustained but the first thing I want to
touch upon before that is how the FED
got this situation so wrong because we
were told heading into the end of 2024
entering 2025 that the Fed was going to
cut interest rates and mortgage rates
were going to get cheaper and then
housing was going to get more affordable
due to these rate Cuts but that hasn't
happened something very interesting has
happened everyone since the FED started
cutting interest rates which was right
around midt that's when the FED started
cutting interest rates right around
September 16th you could see mortgage
rates at this point bottomed around 6.1%
in mid-september and then very quickly
after that mortgage rat shot back up and
are now all the way to a level of
7.26% that's where the 30-year fixed
mortgage rate is right now according to
mortgage News Daily so we're actually at
one of the highest mortgage rates that
we've seen in the last 2 years since the
rate started going up even with the FED
cutting interest rates and this is
what's particularly scary because it's
almost as if the FED has lost control of
the economy and of interest rates in the
econom you know this shouldn't happen
where the FED just is seemingly impotent
in terms of their ability to drive
demand and drive interest rates and
instead the bond market is taking over
the bond market and buyers and sellers
of 10 and 30e us treasuries are taking
over and they're saying hey we think
actually fed you might actually have to
increase interest rates in the in the
future and that's frustrating for home
buyers out there because it doesn't seem
like there's going to be mortgage rate
relief in the near term and that's
causing the buyer demand to just
completely fall off the table through
the first week of January the Mortgage
Bankers Association reported a mortgage
app index of 128 so this is an index
benchmarked to show how many people are
applying for mortgages to purchase a
home that index through the first week
of January was down 14% from the same
week in 2024 20% from the same week in
2023 54% lower than the same week in
2022 60% lower than the same week in
2021 and 52% lower than the same week in
2020 so we literally have 52% fewer
buyers applying for mortgages now than
we did right before the pandemic and
this of course is now starting to have
consequences in the housing market for
sellers in particular one of the biggest
consequences we're seeing is that the
days on market for houses is going up by
a lot when a seller lists a house often
you know they're still listing at a
price that's unrealistic and it's just
sitting on the market for days and days
and no one is buying and this is
especially true in a market like Florida
for instance you can see in Florida that
the days on the market is now 79 days
this Doom is the highest that we have
seen in the last decade just for
perspective in 2021 during the peak boom
that Doom went down to 55 days that's
part of the reason how you knew there
was a tight market and that prices would
go up well now we're at 79 so with this
Doom so high in Florida as well as some
other parts of America that's now going
to mean more downward pressure on prices
and that's now caus causing price growth
to slow and many markets and it's even
causing price growth to go negative
year-over-year and where I think prices
are going to go negative are the areas
in blue particularly dark blue on this
map this is uh these are areas with the
lowest reventure app Price Forecast
score I'm going to get into this in a
little more detail in this video too
explaining to you guys what this Price
Forecast means and how accurate it is at
predicting the future of price growth in
your Market but first let's talk about
some projections for mortgage rates in
2025 where are mortgage rates going to
go to by the end of the year and this is
a tough question everyone and I kind of
say this to myself like predicting
mortgage rates the last three years has
been a Fool's erant in the housing
market there's been numerous times I
thought rates would start to go down and
then the FED reverse course or inflation
expectations reared their head again and
rates ended up going up but I think at
this point it feels like a pretty solid
bet that by the end of
2025 mortgage rates are still probably
going to be above
65% unless we see some type of big
economic downturn uh if we see some type
of big economic downturn that could push
rates lower and bond yields lower but
absent that rates are probably going to
stay the range of 6.5 to 7.5% so maybe
we'll see rates drop a bit from their
current level of
7.2 uh into the high sixes as the year
goes on but I I wouldn't bet as a home
buyer that you're going to see
significantly lower mortgage rates than
you are right now and this is something
I think a lot of you guys intuitively
understand because I actually pulled you
about a month ago here on my channel and
I asked the question do you think it's a
good or bad time to buy a house heading
into 2025 now 14% of you said good time
to buy 66% of you said bad time to buy
20% of you said not sure so really uh a
vast majority of you think it's either a
bad time to buy or you're not totally
sure and that negative sentiment on the
housing market is also echoed in The
Fanny May housing survey each month
Fanny May issues a survey on the US
housing market asking Americans what
they think about the housing market in
the most recent month 78% of Americans
said they thought it was a bad time to
buy where 22% thought it was a good time
to buy so pretty similar results to how
I pulled you guys on my channel Fanny
May is finding something similar and you
can see historically it's actually quite
the opposite normally Americans think
it's a good time to buy a house like if
you go back to 2010 even during the last
crash in 2010 72% of Americans thought
it was a good time to buy more broadly
speaking Americans are pretty optimistic
about buying to the housing market
however not anymore they're very
pessimistic and the reason they're
pessimistic is because prices are too
high it's the price levels that are the
main reason why so many buyers are on
the Seline it's not mortgage rates you
know mortgage rates are an issue but
really A 7% mortgage rate is not not
historically unprecedented a 7% mortgage
rate is actually historically normal
rather what's unprecedented is how
expensive prices are today in the
housing market and you can get a sense
of just how historically expensive
houses are today by looking at this
graph which measures inflation adjusted
home prices over the last 134 years in
America and what inflation adjustments
do everyone is it takes the home value
growth and adjusts it downward for the
level of inflation
and we put these home prices here in $
2022 so basically this is telling you
over the last 134 years how much a house
would have cost at 2022 inflation and
price levels what you can see is that
the long-term average going back to 1890
is
$169,000 for a house priced in
2022 doar and what you could see is that
from 1890 all the way to 1997 1998 home
prices didn't grow adjusted for
inflation they stayed the same but then
starting in the early 2000s we had this
big spike in housing bubble one then we
had a crash and now we had another big
spike in housing bubble two where prices
adjusted for inflation are at their
highest level ever they're more than
almost 80% above the long-term inflation
adjusted norm and what's important to
understand is that when we look at
mortgage rates which is now the Orange
Line we can see that today's mortgage
rate levels Nearing 7% those mortgage
rates are basically at a normal level
they're a bit above where they were from
1890 to 1964 and they're below where
they were during the great inflation of
the 70s and 80s kind of back to where
they were in the early 2000s and I think
when you look at this graph a high 6%
mortgage rate makes some intuitive sense
uh as being a normal mortgage rate but
what doesn't make sense is home prices
this expensive and so that's where the
relief is going to have to come on the
house in Market if we are going to see
relief it's going to have to come on
home prices because income and wages
they'll probably grow at 4% maybe 5% in
2025 there'll be some improvement of
affordability on income and wages but
it's not going to be nearly enough uh
for most buyers so if we are going to
see an improvement in affordability in
2025 it's going to have to come through
lower prices and it's going to have to
come in certain States first because
there's certain areas of America where
prices are now dropping and will
probably continue to drop in 2025 if we
go back to this reventure app home price
forecast score by state let's talk about
my forecast for the different states and
where I think prices are heading and
let's lead off with Florida everyone
because Florida actually has the lowest
price forecast of any state a 38 out of
100 and when you see this forecast below
50 that means downward uh projection on
prices you could see a year ago in
Florida we were at a 48 we were kind of
at a neutral Market we were starting to
predict the Slowdown well now we're
saying into 2025 at reveng trap that
Florida is really going to slow due to
the supply and demand fundamentals
really shifting in favor of buyers Texas
also has a pretty low price forecast 39
out of 100 you could see in Texas that
this is now two years in a row where the
market has incrementally shifted shifted
more to a buyer's market in Texas the
big issue is inventory you can see we
now have
108,000 homes on the market in Texas at
the end of 2020 4 uh by far the highest
level for the month of December going
back at least 7even years you can also
see that we're starting to see weakness
in the mountain states Colorado in
particular this is a sneaky Market a
sneaky downturn Market where we're
forecasting prices are going to drop you
could see we went from a sellers Market
a score of 70 in Colorado down to a 46
the last two years which is kind of
neutral to slightly declining well now
we're forecasting real declines heading
into 2025 in Colorado and I'm getting
into some more of these states in a
second however I want to issue a caveat
and a warning here uh and just urge some
caution using this Price Forecast so
while you can use it at the state level
and the Metro level and it's interesting
to see how prices are forecast to go in
your state in your city you really have
to dig down to the neighborhood level in
your ZIP code to get a more accurate
reading on the direction of your Market
because the one thing I'm seeing is that
there's often big differences within a
state within a Within a city in terms of
how home prices are heading and
projecting for instance if we zoom in on
New York and look at Manhattan you can
see the prices in Manhattan are forecast
to be down or maybe uh stable with a
slight negative tilt over the next year
while if you go over the river into New
Jersey the prices are forecast to go up
by quite a bit meanwhile prices in Long
Island are forecast to go up uh and
these are all in the same Metro Everyone
so uh if you were to look at the Metro
forecast for New York you wouldn't
really get um the accurate neighborhood
level you would have to go to look at
the zip codes we're also seeing this big
time in Los Angeles so in Los Angeles
and we'll see actually how these fires
and the unfortunate things going on
there are going to change this but
already in La we were having downward
forecasts in the center of Los Angeles
County as well as to the northwest of
Los Angeles County while we were having
upward forecasts in Orange County so
look at this almost like a dividing line
here between upward forecast growing
prices downward forast
decreasing prices in La seeing much the
same in Miami in Miami to the north of
the downtown we have uh downward
pressure on prices but if we go to the
southwest and some of these nicer
suburbs we still have stable to positive
forecast on prices now one thing I'm
really excited to reveal is that the
reventure app Price Forecast score
performed very well at predicting prices
in 2024 we actually just ran the numbers
on this here at reventure app and we
found that among large Metro areas our
reventure app Price Forecast score
predicted where prices were heading at a
74 correlation coefficient a 74%
correlation coefficient which is very
strong you can see that represented on
this graph where we're tracking what the
reventure app score was in 2023 for all
the different large metros in America
versus what the home price growth
actually was in 2024 you could see a
really strong positive correlation so
our score was very good in 2024
predicting prices and the reason it's
good is because we actually look at the
fundamentals driving prices in each
market we look at the inventory we look
at the price Cut Rate we look at the
days on market and the recent
appreciation Trends and if you
understand those metrics for your city
and zip code you have a pretty good read
on what's going on with prices and where
they could head in the future and so
what I would suggest you guys do is head
to ww. reventure doapp and look at the
price forecast score for your state
metro area County and zip code now we
have two pricing plans here at reventure
app everyone for that premium data on
the forecast Score first option is the
monthly pass which is $39 a month it
unlocks those scores as well as 40 other
premium data points to help you as a
buyer gain understanding about your
local housing market and where prices
could be heading however what a lot of
people are doing recently is signing up
for the annual pass which comes at a 15%
discount so it knocks down the monthly
rate to 33 a month that allows you to
track the data month in and month out
over the next year as you you prepare
yourself for your home buying or
investment purchase decision so sign up
for that annual pass so you can see what
the reventure price forecast score is
for your area and understand its
components if the score is below a 50
with a downward arrow that suggests we
think prices are going to go down in the
next year if it's above a 50 with an
upward arrow in red that means we think
prices are stable or going to go uW